{"id":107,"date":"2007-04-15T06:24:18","date_gmt":"2007-04-15T13:24:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.remarc.com\/craig\/?p=107"},"modified":"2007-04-15T06:24:18","modified_gmt":"2007-04-15T13:24:18","slug":"in-reply-to-organic-lawns-more-tipping-point-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ellishollow.remarc.com\/?p=107","title":{"rendered":"In reply to <i>Organic Lawns &#8211; More Tipping Point News?<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a HREF=\"images\/~fred1.jpg\"><img SRC=\"images\/~fred1x175.jpg\" ALT=\"Fred\" ALIGN=\"right\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is a rather long reply to <a HREF=\"http:\/\/www.gardenrant.com\/my_weblog\/2007\/04\/organic_lawns_m.html\">Susan Harris\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s post<\/a>  over at <a HREF=\"http:\/\/www.gardenrant.com\/my_weblog\/\">Garden Rant<\/a> this morning.<\/p>\n<p>First Susan, no one has ever accused me of being a \u00e2\u20ac\u02dchorticultural expert\u00e2\u20ac\u2122.  I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m a gardener and communications guy who has the good fortune of working with some great plant people at my day job.  When I blog, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m just an avid gardener like the rest of you, so I won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t presume to speak for my co-worker \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Frank S. Rossi, a turf specialist at Cornell University and a nationally recognized expert on golf course maintenance, [who] does not share [SafeLawn&#8217;s founder] Mr. Tukey\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s enthusiasm,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d as Leslie Land writes in the NY Times.  (You can <a HREF=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/04\/12\/garden\/12lawn.html?ref=garden&amp;pagewanted=all \">read the full article<\/a> until it disappears behind the NY Times for-pay firewall.)<\/p>\n<p>I think that Frank <strong>does<\/strong> share Paul\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s enthusiasm for helping lawnowners make sure their lawns are environmental assets, not liabilities, and making sure that they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re not using products that they don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t need.  Frank is the author of <a HREF=\"http:\/\/www.gardening.cornell.edu\/lawn\">Lawn Care Without Pesticides<\/a>, which is available online.<\/p>\n<p>I share that enthusiasm, too.  I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not a lawn freak.  But <a HREF=\"images\/~fred1.jpg\">Fred the Dalmatian<\/a> loves the lawn, and Jade (the lab-border collie mix up in my banner pic) loves to roll in the grass.  I would never apply anything to my lawn that would hurt them.  But my lawn doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t qualify as organic, because most falls I apply about a pound of nitrogen (as urea) to part of my lawn, focusing on the weak spots.  (More about that toward the end.)<\/p>\n<p>Where Frank and Paul part ways, I think, is on the efficacy of compost teas.  The Times\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 article says \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Dr. Rossi\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s research lab has evaluated compost tea\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s effect on turf and found little proof of a major benefit.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d  I think that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s accurate reporting.<\/p>\n<p>My understanding of compost teas is that they are supposed to act as \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcmicrobial inoculants\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 to kind of jump start soil biological processes.  I believe those processes are important.  But for teas to show benefits, first you have to have soil where the processes are out of whack.  If your soil is healthy, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not sure why you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d expect a lot of benefit.<\/p>\n<p>You throw in all the other variables \u00e2\u20ac\u201c the origin of the compost needed to make the tea, what microbes are present in that compost, how the tea is \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcbrewed\u00e2\u20ac\u2122, the type of soil it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s applied to, the time of the year, etc. etc. \u00e2\u20ac\u201c and I think that it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s very difficult to make the blanket statement that compost tea works.  Paul is quoted as saying that \u00e2\u20ac\u0153 \u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s like a blood transfusion for the lawn.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d  It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a nice analogy, but not all health issues are solved by a blood transfusion.<\/p>\n<p>I personally have a concern about organic fertilizers from a phosphate pollution perspective.  If you soil test most mature sods, the phosphorus levels are often high (or at least sufficient) \u00e2\u20ac\u201c particularly if they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve been fertilized during establishment.  (This may not be true for all soils, particularly sandy ones.  Take a soil test if you aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t sure.).<\/p>\n<p>While there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no doubt in my mind that the organic matter in most organic fertilizers and composts benefit grass in most cases, especially on disturbed soils and soils low in organic matter, most of those fertilizers are also high in phosphorus.  That phosphorus has the potential to run off and pollute surface waters.  (Some of us are old enough to remember the days when detergent manufacturers removed phosphates from their products because they were killing aquatic ecosystems.)<\/p>\n<p>Grass needs nitrogen to grow.  In healthy, mature sods, you may get enough just by leaving  the clippings to recycle N.  Or you could plant clover to fix nitrogen for your lawn.  But if you plan to apply organic fertilizers that are high in phosphorus on a regular basis to feed nitrogen to the grass, you are going to risk phosphate runoff.<\/p>\n<p>For those of you in the Chesapeake Bay watershed (or any other watershed with a lot of animal agriculture), livestock farmers face a similar problem.  If they apply enough manure to meet the nitrogen needs of their corn, they overapply phosphorus.  Over the years, soil test P levels go up, and any soil that erodes carries that phosphorus into the bay.<\/p>\n<p>When friends and neighbors ask me about lawn care, I really don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t focus in on what to apply when.  I think you get a much larger bang for your effort by concentrating on mowing management and some other <a HREF=\"http:\/\/www.gardening.cornell.edu\/lawn\/lawncare\/basics.html\">lawn basics<\/a>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Mow high \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Set your push mower at the highest setting or your riding mower so that you are cutting the grass at 3 or 4 inches.<\/li>\n<li>Leave the clippings \u00e2\u20ac\u201c To recycle nutrients.<\/li>\n<li>Keep your mower blade sharp \u00e2\u20ac\u201c So you don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t stress the grass.<\/li>\n<li>Don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t grow grass \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Where it doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t want to grow.  Hardscape high-traffic areas.  Plant shade-loving plants where there isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t enough light.  Plant a rain garden in poorly drained areas.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Like gardening and politics, all lawn care is local.  I write from a Northeast perspective.  Your mileage may vary, particularly if you are in a different neck of the woods.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a rather long reply to Susan Harris\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s post over at Garden Rant this morning. First Susan, no one has ever accused me of being a \u00e2\u20ac\u02dchorticultural expert\u00e2\u20ac\u2122. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m a gardener and communications guy who has the good fortune of working with some great plant people at my day job. 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